Excerpt from BBC Documentary
Full Documentary : THE SECRET FAMILY OF JESUS
Islam is the true religion then.
There is no true myth, there is no god, there is no such stupid thing.
Thre sure are stupid people like you who think everything just happened randomly from big bang, all the way to this, but somehow everything looks so good, everything in pairs, male and female, + and -, who the f did that? random? I don’t think so. There has to be something divine, but you lost idiots just love attacking others beliefs and feel special and different. That is all I see you atheists do over the internet, trying so hard to make people think that there is no God.
Keep your crap to yourself and keep living a purposeless life. Just don’t go out crying about it to others.
You get on here and refer to those who believe something different as “stupid people” and “idiots” then accuse them of attacking others’ beliefs.
Maybe you should take a close look in the mirror.
And before you accuse Chrisanthos of doing it first, read more closely. He attacked an idea or belief. Nowhere did he insult or attack the people, like you did.
Answering “i don’t know” is far better than making up some absurd answer that is solely based on your geographical location (you’re probably a Catholic, if you were born in Turkey you’d be a Muslim).
Life doesn’t need a purpose, and the fact you’ve included it in your ‘argument’ only highlights the absolute weakness in theistic arguments and our desire for God to be true.
Religion is on the decline en masse, and it will be the minority in a few decades (2041 some think, based on the latest trends). The fact that most scientists (91% of the scientists at the National Academy of Sciences in the US) are atheist only shows how ignorant your comment is. Is there need for a divine? We don’t know. it’s so early and science is still in its infancy, but rest assured that your specific notion of ‘God’ as an individual that cares who people sleep with and think about does not exist.
Stupidity is to believe , in science we DON’T believe but we have theories based on FACTS, unlike religions. As for you super smart question, ” just happened randomly from big bang” ask your self how this super smart God just happen to exist, is more complicated than a big bang BUT YOU as a logical been you accept it as the truth and not the big bang which we have so many facts about it and non for god, yeah boy you are very smart!
” but somehow everything looks so good”
Genius, what about cancer, aids, flu etc etc, okay religion has always a stupid answer for people believe answers good enough for their intelligent.
We have this cancer name it religion ages now, and give to humanity death and stupidity, keep it away from knowledge , is time to go, it’s time humanity becomes one with out colors and different imaginary friends.
Islam has FACTS too. It’s just your choice wheter to aknlowledge them or not. There are scientific and historical facts found in the Quran which were unknown to the people at the time, and have only been discovered recently by contempory science.
The Quran is in a unique style of language that cannot be replicated, this is known as the ‘Inimitability of the Quran.’
There are predictions made in the Quran and by the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) which have come to be pass.
atheism is not science…. please always remember that.. you atheists use science as your argument, but people with religion also believe in science.
science is as much a faith as religion. your mind that allows you to understand science was given to you by God whether or not you believe in Him.
well are we high and mighty or what? god is one big myth just like all the other gods and deities
I think “something” happened. But I think the people who wrote the bible, knew about as much if not less than I do about the universe and how it originated…And I do not believe that it was created by a god who cares what I do with my genitalia, or whether or not I believe in it…
Same to you.
if you believe that, they why are you here..
Let me explain smth to you.
I guess it’s okay if you won’t believe smth we can’t see. But let me ask you this, can you see AIR? how do you believe it’s there?
“but the science has proof”
“Science” is man-made. We have a lot of things to explore and learn. We know nothing about the bottom of the ocean, how could we know smth that’s far superior than everything that existed. That’s why there were messengers to put us in the right path. The thing that keeps us connected to God is the positive energy, and faith.
Without religion, there would’t have been no morality, no humanity, no mercy.
People in US are losing their religion (around 50% of them don’t care about religion at all) That’s why we are seeing Miley Cyrus’, and Lady Gagas private parts on TV. No morality, no humanity, no shame.
1. “But let me ask you this, can you see AIR? how do you believe or know it’s there?”
Does science sees electrons, or better does science sees higgs boson?
NO but we know are there because we can make some test and have some results and theories that are proofs are there and what is their job. Galileo said the earth is not flat because did some scientific research and found some evidence proof that. Of course religion hate what he found and almost kill him. Religion is a batch of stupid people that “communicate with god” NO THEY ARE NOT.
2. “A century ago people didn’t know 90% of the stuff people know today
But there we go again about “air”:
“but the science has proof now”"
Scientist have theories today about the cosmos that suggest that we are leaving in a multiverse. The only people are so closed mind not to understand this theories and what is a theory are religious people, scientist never said there is no air because we can’t see it, this is what religion does all the time as it does with evolution. There is no evolution because we CAN’T see any animal to evolve in front of our eyes, and they ignore to read all those facts and experiments that are showing that evolution is happening , happen and will continue to happen.
3. “Science” is man-made.”
Who told you religion is not a man made? There are 50,000 religions at all the world, are those god made? And the fanny thing all they disagree with them, how stupid god is? Science is man made but because is based on truths no scientist disagree with other if there are lot o facts to support a theory well. This is science, when the facts are speaking nobody disagrees unlike religions…
4. ” We have a lot of things to explore and learn. We know nothing about the bottom of the ocean, how could we know something that’s far superior than everything that ever existed. ”
Thank you, that’s why we need to send all religions to HELL and let us free our minds and start doing all humans together science and researches to learn more about our environment. Religion it does the opposite, they never spent money for research and to learn new things, the only thing they care religious people is to collect more gold and more people and fool more people. The only thing they care is to keep people in ignorance like you are my friend and not let people realize how crappy and useless religion is.
5.” That’s why there were messengers to put us in the right path. ”
God is stupid? How many messenger has send to us and every messenger says different things that the other? The funniest thing is that they all speaking too much and saying nothing non of them says a clear message, that’s why we have and so many stupid regions, they are not saying one thing and not to mean another thing, they speak with words that everybody believes different things. If god put the words in their mouth, god is a retard.
6. “There are so many facts but clearly you haven’t read the Qur’an”
O yes, the same things that saying all.. There are so many facts..
OK SHOW ME, and when they show me, is a batch of stupid word and shits that can mean anything. Sorry but before I become an atheist I study hard religions. Unlike science is a batch of people like sale men, they know how to make other believe with lies and tricks.
7. ” The thing that keeps us connected to God is the positive energy, and faith.”
I do this with my mobile phone and computer, so these are my gods.
8. “Without religion, there would’t have been no morality, no humanity, no mercy.”
Are you serious now? Most of the wars are because fucking religions and different faiths. Most of the worse and unethical things happen in the name of a god or a religion, murders, sacrifices etc.
Read some history mate! These religions fuck our planet!
9. “People in US are losing their religion”
Does this mean that are know anything about science, or teleological, reasonable thinking? NO
10. “And 12 year olds like what they do and they become their role-models? Would you like for your sister to be like Miley? No. There is no morality, no humanity, no shame in America. I hope my community never goes like that.”
FIRST is not what I like, I won’t control life of anybody, this is unethical, this is what religions do.
SECOND everybody has mind, and can make his,her choices, I can show to him her what is reasonable thinking teleological thinking and what is science. If she , he has the capacity of mind to understand what I’m saying good for him,her. If not, I won’t stop her,him to do what he,she wants. THERE LIFE IS NOT MINE!
Read Qur’an, nobody will explain 600 pages, you’ll get your answers yourself. Don’t be stupid.
“because we can make some test and have some results and theories that are proofs are there”- You are contradicting yourself.
“but science has proof now”
Hahahahahhahaha, Science has proof that there is somekind of infinite energy real far from us, but we don’t know what it is, until we have better instruments. What if after 10 000 years we discover that is something more than just energy? what if after 10k years we discover how to unleash all the brain processing, and discover some simple things that were right infront of us and we didn’t see? What if we discover a new source of energy?
Dude please shut up, you don’t even know what you’re saying, contradicting yourself all the time, I guess you’re just a spoiled kid. I’m done here, I’m not here to convince you, i’m just telling you smth you don’t know.
OMG I cannot believe I read all that bullshit and spent time replying to you.
UNTIL YOU READ AND ARE INFORMED REAL GOOD, YOU CAN SPEAK ABOUT RELIGIONS.
One more thing:
The first words of Qur’an are “Read and Study” not pray, so before you read the Qur’an you have to be smart enough to get the concept. There are many things stupid people like you can’t process. Be open-minded, be faithful, be smart.
Read the Quran just once ! The way you searched about the Big Bang ! I hope you won’t be saying these things and will have fear !
there is no such thing as the true religion. but many religions out there are false. just go by god’s commandments, except jesus as your savior,see him as the man who died for you and rose again..
you just contradicted yourself. Jesus himself stated that he was sent to save the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Unless you are from the house of Israel he aint your savior. However he spoke of one to come after him. Frankly if you wanna be like jesus practice Judaism because you can’t show me a single place in the bible where he stopped being a practicing Jew
Jesus? Is he a God?
Did he ever say that he was actually a GOD? As much as I respect the religion, there is no proof that he stated himself as a God, search everywhere u want (no fake bibles). He was a Messenger, and Muhammad was the last messenger. He was SENT. I’m done here. People should pray to GOD not to Jesus, there is somebody bigger than Jesus, and that is GOD aka. Allah.
oh it is my friend all you have to do is welcome it accept it and trust in it and he the lord will give paradise immortality of pleasure
I know it is, and I’m a proud Muslim.
Good for you, so you’ve been brainwashed by your Religion. Yet, you call me stupid
You just showed me your level of thinking, you are making a fool of yourself, please stop trying.
Eddie, you believe in religion so you are the fool. You’ve been fooled by organized religion. Face it. Religion was created by man for man. This is a fact that you can’t disprove, but I can prove that it’s true.
Scott David people like you from early ages rejected God and Messengers because of Ego and Foolishness. When Messengers shown them the miracles that no one can do people like you rejected them and God Miracles and they were perished by the God’s punishment. Islam has nothing to do with this world, this world is nothing but a test. Death is a truth that no one can deny it. After death you will know who is your God because God will ask you how you spent your life in this world. No single Soul can escape that day. YOU CAN REJECT GOD AND MESSENGERS IN YOUR LIFE BUT ON THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT YOU WILL NOT BE IN A POSITION TO REJECT THE TRUTH BECAUSE YOU WILL BE IN PUNISHMENT FROM YOUR GOD.
You can be a good person without Religion. Have fun living in fear the rest of your life.
What Religion were the dinosaurs?
And then your type of stupid shows up in this section.
It’s a real question that should warrant some thought on your part since God wasn’t created until millions/billions of years after the dinosaurs. Man created God.
I’m tired of explaining things that you can simply read if you google them. This is really stupid of you to ask this question, just stop and think for a moment.
How can animals have religions? They are not people, religion is for people, who understand concept of God (no matter what religion) It’s like you’re asking if your dog is christian or jewish? is your dog french, italian, or dutch? what is wrong with you people?!
If you understood science more than religion, you would see why my question is relevant. Religion is for people? LOL! And I suppose you think the World was made for us too. lol! Animals have ruled the Earth 99.9% longer than humans. We are not all that.
Thank you for proving humans created religion and God though!
The Qur’an was sent in the human era for a purpose. Animals can’t read can they? They can’t understand the importance of it. If you haven’t read or are at least 10% informed about what Islam really is, i think that you should stop trying. You can’t question me about something I know better, on both aspects Science and Religion. Think out of the box, logics is also important in case you didn’t know.
So you know how animals have thought since the beginning of the Earth? Amazing…
BTW, I went to College for Logic and Communications.
Logic has no “s” in it either:) Tell me what is wrong with this sentence… “UNTIL YOU READ AND ARE INFORMED REAL GOOD, YOU CAN SPEAK ABOUT RELIGIONS.”
Eddie, you don’t know that much, and it’s obvious. Islam is a religion like any other. All based on fairy tales and rules made by the people in power to make the masses act a certain way. Has nothing to do with God.
Hello everyone, Jesus is the Son of God!
… and so are you and everyone else here
Was, he died.
On the point of James…
James was the oldest half-brother of the Lord Jesus (Matt. 13:55). He witnessed Christ’s appearance following his resurrection (1 Cor. 15:7). In James 1:1, he refers to Jesus Christ as “the Lord” and explains how prayers and anointing “in the name of the Lord” (James 5:14) “shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him” (James 5:15). Only Jesus the Christ of Nazareth, the only begotten Son of God, healed the sick, raised the dead, and proclaimed the authority to forgive sins (Matt. 9:1-8, John 11:38-44). James knew good and well that his half-brother was the Son of God, else he would not have called Jesus his Lord and he would not encourage people to pray in the name of Jesus Christ to be forgiven, healed, and saved. And if no one was healed, forgiven, or saved when praying in the name of Jesus Christ, then the gospel of Jesus Christ would never have spread, nor would it be alive and well and still doing the same thing healing, forgiving, and saving people all over the world today.
On the point of servanthood…
Jesus Christ, speaking of himself, said: “For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many” (Mark 10:45)…
True leadership is servanthood, and the greatest leader of all time is Jesus Christ. Servanthood is an attitude exemplified by Christ “who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant” (Philippians 2:6-7).
Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/servanthood.html#ixzz2dslSgWsk
On the point, purpose, and usefulness of this video…
“Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.” (1 John 4:1-3)
This video is the equivalent of “dung” (Philippians 3:8).
On the truth…
“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me” (John 14:6).
If not, try taking the heaven test before commenting: http://www.jesusplusnothing.com/commands.htm
God bless you!
Hello everyone, be nice to each other.
Jesus was the son of Jehovah as he said he was, so being half human and half god so his was more than a just a messenger. “Demi god”
half human half god?
god has a father?
i can’t understand why chirstian thinks that Jesus is god. God has a father? Read your comment make me wanna laugh.
so many stupid people in this earth.
Don’t believe it? then just wait when the end of earth has come. at that time we will know who’s wrong and who’s right.
Humans will cease to exist and insects will take over the Earth again. Do you think they will create religion eventually?
If God sees everything, hears everything, knows everything, has no beginning or end, is neither male or female, is not like anything else, is absolutely perfect in his Beauty, Love, and Majesty, we can see that Jesus was NOT like that.
We know God knows everything? Jesus did not. When he was asked about “The Hour” that is The Day of Judgement Jesus said “No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father” (Matthew 24:36)
Also in the bible, Jesus went to get fruit from a fig tree. There was no fruit and he cursed the tree (Matthew 21:18-22) Surely if he was God, he would have known that before he went to the tree! Jesus DID do miracles but not with his own power. He says ‘Of myself, I can do nothing.’ And when he did miracles, he did it in the name of the Father who we would refer to as God. How could Jesus be God if he prayed to God, asked God for help, if God himself is the Almighty. Jesus was not the son of God. Many people are called sons of God in the Bible. For example, Adam was called the son of God (Luke 3:38) and so was David (2 Samuel 7:14). Jesus himself, in the Bible said “Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called Sons of God.” (Matthew 5:9) In the Bible, lots of good
people are called Sons of God, and from what Jesus said in The Bible, any good person is a ‘son
of God.’ How do you believe Jesus asked you to pray? Didn’t he say to pray “Our Father in Heaven…”?
When the Christians pray, don’t they say, ‘Our Father in Heaven…’? If Jesus was the only Son of
God, according to Christianity, surely you would be praying “Jesus’ Father in Heaven…”?
The Bible is a horrible source for referencing history. Inaccurate and full of fairy tales.
Saad Yousaf state “Compare that to the Qur’ans approach to Jesus:
• Gives only one account of Jesus
• No discrepancies or contradictions in narrating his life
• One author (you’d be under the assumption it was Muhammad [s]) and not 4 who are constantly contradicting the other 3 in narrating his life (especially the most important event, the alleged Crucifixion).”
If you are going to make false claims such as these, have the courage to list those contradictions. I call you out on this. Instead of doing as all others do (parotting others uninformed biased opinions), try searching it out for yourself. I know of only a couple “claimed” contradictions. And those contradictions are interpretive ones so the scriptures do not contradict.
Fairytales…all of them.
I am a Muslim and my faith does not increase/decrease with the discovery of this Bible. *yawns*
Because Muslims know everything. LOL!!!
WTF is this… the first bible was produced 1830 AD by John Wycliffe consisting of various hebrew and greek manuscripts from 1,400 BC to 315 AD.
Dr. Seuss Bible
Hazrat Isa (AS) also named Jesus in western countries will return one day and He (Isa) will tell the truth Himself. so do not insult each other.
we can all have discussions, but abusing each others religions is not what Islam nor Christianity teaches.
don’t forget the big picture, we all worship the same Allah (God) and that is what matters to keep humanity togather till Isa (jesus) arrives again.
We don’t all worship the same God. Some people have different views based on science. What you call God, I call the Big Bang. God is not a person or a thinking being, IMO. Humans are not the most important things in the Universe. If we were, wouldn’t we have been created sooner? Also, after humans are gone, what will God have to do to keep busy? Once Earth is gone, then what, will God move on to other planets to kill the time until the Universe recycles itself again?
Here is something much more educational than finding another old book.
What if this new found book was actually an attempt to get rid of Christianity buy people who disagreed with it. So they wrote this book to trick and throw off people who believed Jesus is God.
It’s interesting to me that the most hostile and judge mental people in these comments are Christians. I thought Christianity is supposed to be about love, not hating and judging everyone who isn’t Christian. I don’t understand the need for capitalizing letters (for yelling) and throwing racial and religious stereotypes. It makes Christians and Americans look bad and ignorant. I think it’s important to try and look at all things from all perspectives so we can all make unbiased decisions and judgements, instead of basing everything off of the little information one has.
…an old relic that should have been thrown in the trash years ago
HAHA, I am trully pissing myself here . We muslims – we christians wat the hell? you guys focusing too much on christian’s belives in Jesus beaing a son of god or not. As a matter of fact no one of you know shit about GOd ,Jesus etc all you base your statement on is what you read in Qran ,bible or wherever else.. firstly …why do you think is your duty to prove christians anything about God ,son of god …like any christian will listen and belive what you are saying right?so your statements ,proves mean shit to christians as they wont listen or belive that…so why do you have to say it?just leave them be.|By saying all that you creating conflicts / hate/anger /pain…Is this a positive and wanted feeling you creating in another human being? Is this what you have learnt through your lifes- To cause disruption/anger/pain with your mouths? Me as a christian/catholic- i belive in jesus mary ,holy god trinity etc..On the other hand side i do not try to prove you muslims that my religion is THE REAL ONE!! in fact i could not care less of what you belive in.who you kill ,who you think you can kill , whether you allowed to kill ”non belivers” in the name of god and that’s fine – I DO NOT care! you lot do as you pleased. NO one of you here belives in god as you know shit about GOds way of life…. GOD says be good anr respect other people regardless of their gender ,religion,belives, we all brothers , i do treat you all muslims as my brothers – can this feeling be mutual on every level? i say yes- WHat say you? you will say …as long as….is that right?anyway God says ..forgive ,love ,respect and be mercyfull towards others ,,if someone swears at you or call you names ..just walkk away, forgive and love people who hate you and give you hard time..This is the way i follow and i can call myself a christian and i say to all muslims..i do love you as brother humans regardless. .. ALL OF YOU CHRISTIANS ON THIS WEBSITE !! drop your weapons and leave muslims in peace as GOD tought you,forgive them..if they want to say your shit because you christian then let them say it ..why would you fight with people whom opinion does not affect you.It’s just words – they dont hurt..If you do not stop arguments and fights then you are all idiots really,By saying any shit to muslim culture you creating anger / hate in their harts so it’s not correct way though.Stop it!